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home on wheels tour..an airstream argosy

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we are so happy to share a question and answer & home-on-wheels tour today with another argosy owner, we love our tiny painted airstream and never once ran into someone else with one while traveling all of last year. it’s fun to see others (as owners particularly) because the layouts are very similar in many models with only slight tweaks.. this 24ft model is much different with the middle bedroom but otherwise there are still lots of similarities. we were introduced by fellow airstreamers tiffany & deke over cyberspace and hope to meet up one day on the road. david has given tons of fantastic advice/information in this Q&A.. anyone thinking about taking the plunge will be loaded with good info..

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1. How did you decide on an Airstream as your camper of choice and specifically an Argosy?
I’ve noticed Airstreams all my life, and I’ve always been fascinated with them. They were pretty much the only RV that didn’t seem “frumpy” to me, though I still find that the interior of some of them is a bit of a disconnect from the sleek streamlined exterior. Chris Deam commented on the same thing, saying it was odd to walk into the door of the ’90s Airstreams and go from the retro-modern exterior into “grandma’s kitchen.” (Owners of Classics will probably give me hell for that answer.) I’m a bit obsessive about research and when I found AIRForums I dove in headfirst, reading a ton about the trailers (and learning about the construction of other brands in the process) and realized that the durability/restorability of Airstreams made it more appealing than most other brands (Streamline, Silver Streak and the older silver Avions would also qualify there.)

Our Argosy was just a happy coincidence… I wasn’t specifically looking for or avoiding Argosy trailers, but it happened to be The One. When we found out we were staying here for at least a few years, I started looking. I checked out several vintage trailers far and near, and ended up finding the Argosy only 12 miles from the house. I happened to see the listing 15 minutes after it was posted, called the same day to make an appointment to inspect it 2 days later, and thus began the grand adventure/addiction. I was very skeptical about it, because the seller didn’t even post any pictures and the price was higher than lots of the listings, but it was better than even the description in the listing, and I’m still convinced it was worth every penny.

2. What year/length is your Argosy and were you looking for a particular size?
Our trailer is a 1975 Argosy24 (so 24 feet from bumper to hitch). I was looking for a mid-sized trailer (22-27 feet) mainly because I was a little intimidated at the idea of towing a really big trailer (and I didn’t want to feel like I needed a big truck) and I knew that the smaller sizes are in higher demand and therefore a bit pricy. So far it’s turned out to be a “just right” size for us… we’re both big guys, and when we travel with the dogs it’s good to have enough room for everyone to settle somewhere without tripping over one another.

3. We love having a painted Airstream versus the traditional silver, have you ran into many on your weekend outings? (we never do)
We’re also very happy with the painted trailer, though our paint is the original 1975 paintjob, so refreshing that is going to happen somewhere down the road. So far I haven’t seen another Argosy when we’ve been camping, though 2 different random people at gas stations and a few Airstream owners have said they used to have an Argosy. Every one of them has said they regretted selling it too! One of the advantages of an Argosy in Texas is that they don’t heat up in the sun quite as much as the silver trailers. It’s still MUCH better to have good shade, but even with our antique AC unit we can usually keep it comfortable inside.

4. What do you love/hate about your set up?
We really love the panoramic front windows. It’s the biggest advantage of an Argosy over a silver trailer of the same era, the Airstream models didn’t get panos until the 80s (on a few models.) If you buy an Argosy, PROTECT YOUR PANOS! You just can’t get the clear-glass panos anymore unless they come from a scrapped trailer, we had custom padded protectors made for when we’re towing that remove easily, so we get great light when we’re camping (the Airstream rock guards have a dark tint).

The next problem we need to solve is the mattresses (both, ours is a twin-bed floorplan.) They’re not original anyway, so I’m not conflicted about it like I would be if we had to replace the cushions on the dinette w/ their funky ’70s fabric. They’re just not thick/supportive enough for big guys, and we often wake up with sore/stiff backs and shoulders. We need thicker mattresses with denser foam and perhaps a memory-foam layer on top.

5. Are you equipped for boondocking? Did your Argosy already have a gray tank and if not did you install one?
In theory we could boondock in moderate weather, but we haven’t yet tried it out. We still have the recalled original Suburban furnace, and the only way to check whether or not the fix for the recall has been done involves taking it out… which involves dismantling the galley cabinets, which means removing the range and sink… funny how satisfying a little ceramic heater can be when you have 120v power!  (; They started with (tiny!) gray tanks in 1974, so our trailer has 15 gallons of graywater storage. With careful use we’ve had 4-day stays without a sewer hookup and hadn’t filled it. We’ve only got 1 battery and still have mostly incandescent lights, so 2 nights boondocking with VERY careful power usage would be our limit without buying a generator.

6. Advice for those dreaming of buying their very own?
Research first, then DO it.  And don’t be in a hurry to buy the first one you see. There is a fantastic “airstream trailer inspection checklist” on the AIRForums website that I’d recommend anyone use (just do a Google search for the string I have in quotes, it’s currently the first result.) Don’t expect a $4000 trailer to be perfect, odds are you’ll spend that amount on it again getting it into good shape. Ours was in very good shape (and cost well over $4k), we could have gone camping right away, but there are still things to improve. I hear from people with brand new ones that those also cost money to keep road-ready.

Also, think VERY carefully about the sleeping arrangements. If one of you thrashes about in your sleep or needs lots of space, a double bed ain’t enough for 2. A “real” queen (that’s not in the corner) or a twin-bed plan may be better for you, it is for us!

7. As gourmands, any challenges in the kitchen?
The size of the range has been a problem from time to time. Even though we try to have right-sized cookware, those burners are CLOSE together and getting everything done at the same time takes a little practice. We’ve learned to plan meals that are galley-friendly, such as one item finishing in the oven while the rest finish on a burner or two. We’ve also bought a nice little Coleman propane grill with a burner so we can cook part of the meal outside.

8. Favorite spots you’ve been to?
Mill Creek Park near Jasper, TX is a nice place if it’s not too hot. It’s a Corps of Engineers campground on Lake Sam Rayburn, with great tall trees and good spacing between the campsites.  Blanco State Park is also very nice. We’re still trying new places for most of our trips, we haven’t had the Argosy long enough to do a lot of repeat visits.

9. You belong to an Airstream group.. is that fun?
We belong to two, a unit of the official WBCCI club and the unofficial AIRForums group. Both have been great for us.

We’re in the Heart of Texas Camping Unit of the WBCCI, which is a “virtual” unit in that we have our business meetings/votes/etc. online via email, and all of our events are about camping. It’s a great, diverse, welcoming group of people and has been very rewarding, we’ve made good friends in the unit. So far our “social” camping trips have been split pretty evenly between HoTCU and AIRForums, and both kinds of trips have been great fun.

AIRForums is a mostly-online organization. The discussion forums have an unbelievable amount of valuable information about using, maintaining, restoring, modifying and/or improving Airstreams, as well as a treasure trove of specific info about various different models, etc. It’s all user-contributed, the moderators are just a group of people even more fanatical about their “aluminitis” who volunteer to chaperone a bit. Quite a few people arrange gatherings from informal camp-outs to big rallies via AIRForums, so there’s a good in-person social aspect to it as well.

 

10. Parting words of wisdom…
If you’re thinking about investing your time, treasure and toil into an Airstream (new or vintage) seek out people online who are already hooked on it and benefit from our experience. Most WBCCI units welcome visitors to their rallies, and that’s a good place to see various different models and ages of Airstreams. We’re generally proud of our streamlined portable houses (to a fault) and love to show them off and talk about them, so don’t expect a quick peek and departure, but it’ll give prospective Airstreamers a chance to learn a lot and decide if it’s a good choice for them without writing a big check, and can help decide between new and old, large and small, etc. Quite a few Airstreamers I know have traded through a couple of different configurations before settling on one that is “just right.”

**thanks again for sharing david & david**


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365 days ago…

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we’re celebrating another ANNIVERSARY. one year ago today WE took off in our AIRSTREAM looking for anything and everything. our first stop included BEIGNETS for the first time, candy’s can-we-have-them-everyday-amazing-MARGARITAS, and lots of work on eddie. oye. walked most of MAGAZINE street in new orleans. rode the ALGIERS ferry. drank a PINA COLADA from a drive-thru daquiri place. can we have one in denver please. saw the most amazing rocks on the KUMEYAAY hwy. made it to HOLLYWOOD and saw lots of STARS. thought about pretty woman as we walked along RODEO drive. walked amongst GIANTS. tried to convince the husband to grab onto a trolley and belt out rice-a-roni the san franciso treat. failed. ate the very best chicago style vegan DEEP DISH pizza. three times. drank thai TEA. watched FORTUNE COOKIES being made. walked in the petrified FOREST. found the best mexican restaurant in las cruces new mexice. hello stuffed sopapillas we like you a lot. learned all about BORDER control. went thrifting on SOCO in austin. watched old FAITHFUL erupt. stood next to a BUFFALO. saw about a hundred more. peered into turquoise POOLS and got steamy glasses. ran into an airstream with a doughnut on top. saw CANADA from the seattle shoreline. visited cadillac RANCH. saw the biggest blue BEAR ever. went to the BERNSTAIN bears hometown. fell head over heels in love with ROSLYN washington. dreamed about having more deep dish pizza. had a flat in one of the HOTTEST cities in america. saw the LONDON bridge. in ARIZONA. dared to go to the WICKEDEST town in the west. saw my first big cactus. jumped back and forth between arizona and nevada on the HOOVER dam. thought about TRANSFORMERS hanging off of the dam. couldn’t believe the dense forest in FLAGSTAFF. took pictures of EDDIE next to the wigwam TEEPEES. watched a BASEBALL game during spring training. went on tea, beer and wine TASTING tours. decided not to leave the ROCKIES. made LISTS of everywhere we still want to GO. blogged a lot. shared some FAVORITES. got frustrated some. had FUN. feel blessed. can’t wait to get out there all over again.

♥♥♥♥a big THANK you to all who follow along with us, we’re so happy you do♥♥♥♥


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the inside&out before&after of eddie

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»»»» the loo ««««

»»»» the exterior ««««

»»»»  unloved & outdated.. to shiny & new…a breakdown of our updo ««««

1. Behind this cleverly placed board was a huge hole in the wall, and sadly the vintage boarding used in 70′s Airstreams was not replaceable. Instead we restored with aluminum sheets (custom cut to fit the walls exactly (both #1 & #2) that we felt most closely resembled this time period and the Airstream aesthetic.

2. Another gaping hole in the wall.

3. This  mustardy yellow hard plastic was on each curved end as well as by the kitchen window. We wanted an all over clean slate so we painted the entire inside white. (we actually painted 5 times because the walls and ceiling were also yellowed with age)

4. This wall was very thin, almost like cardboard and was damaged by water and ??… we replaced with hardwood and ultimately covered with our bison picture.

5. The original fridge was long gone and this was a cheapo electric only fridge, we needed a gas & electric fridge and upgraded.

6. These *&^% stickers were the bain of my existence for many, many hours. They were on every. single. surface. in the bathroom…and stuck like they had been on since the beginning of time.

7. The floors were linoleum, old, cracked and just resting on top of the sub floor, we installed a western cedar faux floor and love it.

8. The couch/bed cushions were 37 years old, enough said.

9. The curtains had seen better days, we used them as a template for the panoramic window and went with marine shades for the other windows.

10. The countertop was basic laminate, we replaced with butcher block.

The sink, which you cannot see, was a tiny, very shallow 2 basin sink. We replaced with a large square 10 inch deep sink with heavy duty faucet.

The stove (which you also cannot see) was avocado green and we had it powdercoated strawberry red/pink. (the letters on the outside of eddie, that spell out Argosy, are painted the same color…)

*** this is the only before picture we have, our others were lost so we showed you as much as we could***

 


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road to sedona

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we’re back……

we were so surprised at the dense pine forests after so much desert,
have you been and did it take you by surprise?

as you drop down off of I-40 onto I-17 you leave the forest behind and go back to
desert, bushes and beautiful red rock formations…

 hello sedona…


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eddie’s rearview

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a previous owner had plumbing problems in the shower and took a shortcut (unfortunately). before cutting anything non-replaceable, if the person had looked, under the taillight covers are two screws on each side of the fixtures that allows access to the entire main wall. oye.

he used bondo and long-haird bondo (ugly stuff isn’t it?). long-haired bondo fills/bonds gaps that are shallow and an inch wide or less. a little fyi…. all bondo is fiberglass and is a two part compound, with the second part being the hardener, be sure to work fast, temperature is a major factor with drying times. the process took multiple applications to get smooth, it sands very fast,but eats up quite a bit of sandpaper…he only used a small electric sander. (a ryobi corner cat & a ryobi orbital sander)

the two bondo products i listed above (and used in this project) are great products. since this originally posted i have replaced some of the areas that were worked on with short-haired bondo. both are usually available at auto supply stores or home depot. i switched to short hair because it is the easiest to use of the bondo products, it takes a few times to get used to mixing the bondo and the hardener and is easiest in cooler weather. once you get the hang of it it’s easy and you can use it on anything. (for example I have used it on rotten wood on homes with great success) after each mixture you have to throw away whatever you mixed the bondo on so I use 10 x 10 squares of cardboard and wood shims to keep the cost very low and for application i use plastic putty knives. shoot me an email if you have any further questions…


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made in the shade

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we wanted to keep the original awning (which came in total disarray & missing parts) and thanks to some magical metal fabrication we were able to have it restored to it’s former beauty. we had a new fabric awning custom sewn, the choices of off-the-rack awnings left us wanting more so we went to a local awning shop, looked through hundreds of swatches, finally settling on a classic stripe (most vintage airstreams had a wide stripe awning) a light gray & white that’s classic but unique. the missing parts were very reasonable to have re-produced and we love that we were able to restore versus start all over..


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bedtime stories

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→ before & after, part four ←
•my bed•

all airstream argosy’s have either a couch/bed or banquette in the window, ours had a couch/bed (that we somehow have no original photos of) but i wanted more of a daybed so we moved the original drawer system forward (and built the frame up to support the larger size) then the mister measured, cut and fitted new wood for the bed platform, we stained it to seal the wood and that’s the whole shebang…. absolute best change we’ve made.


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pick me!

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we knew we wanted an airstream from the very start. i had grown up around several types of travel trailers ~ airstream, spartan, avion, but the one that had our hearts for our first “our very own” was airstream. we didn’t know exactly what that meant as far as which to choose so we looked at new, we looked at old and we thought about price and size and started coming up with a checklist.

initially we looked at all years, models and various sizes to help us determine what we wanted in terms of layout & design…this helped narrow down our must-haves. i like vintage and this steered us quickly in that direction, plus affordability wise that made for a better fit for us. once we knew this was our path we quickly discovered that our other criteria had narrowed down the vintage field as well.

our must-haves:
in many of the earlier model airstream’s the window in the main living area is small. however, the painted airstream, argosy’s, had panoramic windows on the front. this began being copied onto 80′s model airstream’s (as well as current ones) and soon became a couldn’t-do-without option for us. upon looking at various 80′s versions we realized they weren’t quite vintage enough for us and that is what ultimately led us to eddie.

we hadn’t seen many airstream argosy’s out and about so we didn’t initially have them on our radar…this soon changed. we researched the different argsoy floor models and all had features that we liked, including panoramic windows. we had looked at several and soon realized that the second and third most important features we wanted were a smaller length trailer and an open floor plan. many models have separate bedrooms, dinettes, bigger fridges, etc. but since we wanted smaller we felt that the sacrifice of some of these things would pay off big with the spaciousness that a one-room open floor plan allowed for.

it took awhile to find just the one we wanted. the search took time, patience and lots of looking but the minute we saw eddie we knew… another love at first sight for us!


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